All the time stutter.

[encryption767]

I have tried the suggested fixes in the sticky with little to no change in how the game performs. My monitors refresh rate is 70hz so setting v-sync really doesn't help me at all since it will cap at 70fps to avoid tearing. I have tried a few third party frame limiters to try and correct the problem with a little bit of success but all of them seem to limit the frame rate very loosely causing stuttering through out a song.

Is there a better built in frame limiter to this game? If not could you please add one or something? Not many times have I come across the fact I have a decent rig being the problem. Other then the stutter I think this game has a great design to it but the stuttering really stops me from making copies of the game and taking it to friends houses to enjoy so until some kind of fix for this that doesn't require reconfiguring half my system for one program comes along then we will stick to GH and RB.

Otherwise keep up the good work. The PC actually needs fun party style games like this but they do need to be easily configurable for the masses or "just work" tbh.

[David]

This is the first time someone has reported any stuttering. What Frame Rate do you get when you have V-Sync disabled?
What is your system spec?
Do you have the latest graphics drivers.

David

[encryption767]

This is the first time someone has reported any stuttering. What Frame Rate do you get when you have V-Sync disabled?
What is your system spec?
Do you have the latest graphics drivers.

David

With v-sync disabled I get around 400-500fps.

Win7 x64
Q9550@3.4ghz
EVGA 470GTX core@781mhz mem@1796mhz
System Mem 8gb
SB X-Fi Titanium

Yes, I have the latest drivers and the latest version of Phase Shift.

[David]

Is it stuttering in the menus too?
Can you post your game_log.txt from the game directory.

David

[encryption767]

The menus seem ok really. The notes are whats stuttering and the road for them. The back grounds and all seem fine so if there is something that I can do for the notes then that would be great.

I have had little success with frame limiters and noticed if it fluctuates to 61+ FPS then it will stutter. 60 FPS is the magic number. The game seems incredibly strict with this internally but when the fps are solid 60 then you couldn't ask for a smoother experience. No way to limit this in game that I have found and doing it through third party apps do not seem to yield a solid capped fps of 60. They fluctuate through out the song 61+ and when they do then the game stutters like crazy.

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[David]

Can you try using a different calibration method and see if that helps.

David

[encryption767]

Just gave Standard and Sample Linked a try and both produce the same results.

[encryption767]

Just gave it a good play with the different calibration methods and all produce the same results. The game is wonderful when frame rate is exactly 60 but any deviation results in stuttering/jumpy notes and note road. The game back grounds play great regardless of FPS. The stuttering can make notes hard to hit and no third party limiter has produced any great results. They all seem to loosely limit the frame rate where this game needs it to be really precise it seems.

[David]

Let me clarify a couple of things. Does it stutter with both v-sync on and off?

David

[encryption767]

It stutters with v-sync both on and off. Remeber now that my monitor is 70hz so v-sync would sync it to 70fps.

[David]

Is there any differences between fullscreen and windowed mode?

David

[encryption767]

Ok. Small update here. I had an old small lcd monitor in the closet that I knew was 60hz and plugged it up and tested on it. Game ran much much smoother with v-sync enabled on that monitor and plus the fps also fluctuated some on it with very little effect on the game. Maybe a tiny jerk and it was over but on my big monitor @70hz, anytime it went even just to 61 then it would stutter like mad and wouldn't stop until the game leveled at 60 fps again.

I will try the fullscreen/windowed on my good monitor now.

[encryption767]

No change going from fullscreen to windowed mode.

[David]

So on your 70hz Monitor it still locks to 60fps when v-sync is on?

David

[encryption767]

No, it locks it to 70fps. I have to use something like FPS_Limiter_02 or RivaTuner Statistics Server in order to try and have 60fps but these are very loose in their limits so the actual fps fluctuates 60-62. Without using one of these programs and relying on v-sync alone gives 70fps. Without v-sync or either one of these programs then it goes around 400-500fps.