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Post by raynebc on Jan 22, 2012 17:36:05 GMT
EOF will allow overlapping sustained chords to be charted for pro guitar, but I haven't tried to play such a thing in Phase Shift.
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Post by David on Jan 22, 2012 17:51:07 GMT
Phase Shift has supported this since the first version.
Thanks David
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Post by Inf4mousKid on Jan 23, 2012 0:19:01 GMT
dang that's a historic programing
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Post by Inf4mousKid on Jan 23, 2012 0:27:10 GMT
Would there be a chance to be able to play chords while holding an extended sustained note? (Example of a song that does this: "Jump" by Van Halen in Guitar Hero: Van Halen) ...Coming to think about it, I don't think it will be possible with additional frets held to play chords in Phase Shift. it is possible cuz i have done that before in shift wen i tested jump in eof (puppetz chart for remapping)
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Post by hotzin on Jan 23, 2012 0:50:16 GMT
Phase Shift has supported this since the first version. Thanks David Hey man, I think you missed it, but asskickulater posted the Real Guitar chart for Dropping Out of School in the end of the last page.
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Post by TDPNeji on Jan 23, 2012 5:44:41 GMT
Would there be a chance to be able to play chords while holding an extended sustained note? (Example of a song that does this: "Jump" by Van Halen in Guitar Hero: Van Halen) ...Coming to think about it, I don't think it will be possible with additional frets held to play chords in Phase Shift. it is possible cuz i have done that before in shift wen i tested jump in eof (puppetz chart for remapping) Really? Well, I did chart a Zelda song (Windmill Hutt) and I added extended sustain notes behind chords and it couldn't play the chord while I was still holding down an extended sustained note. Well, I do mostly make songs in Feedback Chart Editor (to align tempo) and finish editing the songs in EoF (and I do make extended sustain notes in Feedback via copying/pasting long notes behind other notes). I should experiment.
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Post by vandorb12 on Jan 23, 2012 6:57:55 GMT
it is possible cuz i have done that before in shift wen i tested jump in eof (puppetz chart for remapping) Really? Well, I did chart a Zelda song (Windmill Hutt) and I added extended sustain notes behind chords and it couldn't play the chord while I was still holding down an extended sustained note. Well, I do mostly make songs in Feedback Chart Editor (to align tempo) and finish editing the songs in EoF (and I do make extended sustain notes in Feedback via copying/pasting long notes behind other notes). I should experiment. Sigh... why do people still use dB? It hasn't been updated in a long time, and it lacks so many features that EOF has.
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Post by hotzin on Jan 23, 2012 14:09:48 GMT
Really? Well, I did chart a Zelda song (Windmill Hutt) and I added extended sustain notes behind chords and it couldn't play the chord while I was still holding down an extended sustained note. Well, I do mostly make songs in Feedback Chart Editor (to align tempo) and finish editing the songs in EoF (and I do make extended sustain notes in Feedback via copying/pasting long notes behind other notes). I should experiment. Sigh... why do people still use dB? It hasn't been updated in a long time, and it lacks so many features that EOF has. Because it is much, MUCH more simpler than EoF?! For me, EoF has the weirdest UI, and being able to see note spacing at a ginarmous size on Feedback, makes so you always have more accuracy when finding notes. And I'll tell you what, the people from FoF's forums, the majority of them use EoF, and their charts always have easily noticeable mistakes, exactly because it's hard to keep up with the note count the way the UI was designed. And being able to mess around with the keyboard only, makes it way faster to navigate around your chart, and select certain steps. And being able to switch through those steps with only the arrow keys, helps you know how many notes are in a beat, and figure out what songs have unusual spacing (like 1/20), so you have to use the quantitizer function. I've been charting for the past 3 years (if not more), and all I can say is that, there's no way that EoF has surpassed Feedback's simplicity, and accuracy. If anything, for Phase Shift, I'll be importing Feedback's charts into EoF to add certain events, other than that, there's absolutely no need to use EoF (for me, at least).
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Post by knapman [FD] on Jan 23, 2012 15:22:05 GMT
just to give some details on some song.ini changes in 1.01
We wanted to have a better way to show our support to bands that let us use their songs, the song comment tag is fairly limited when it comes to web links as you can't copy and paste and if your playing fullscreen it becomes a bigger problem
so we decided to add a new option that allows for any song to have up to 2 optional user definable links that can be launched easily while ingame, this also helps free up the comments tag for something more useful than urls
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Post by Oddbrother on Jan 23, 2012 15:22:20 GMT
The way I see it, there's always love for the old and the new for their own unique qualities. It's always good to try and do both to get the best out of your charts.
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Post by hotzin on Jan 23, 2012 19:10:30 GMT
just to give some details on some song.ini changes in 1.01 We wanted to have a better way to show our support to bands that let us use their songs, the song comment tag is fairly limited when it comes to web links as you can't copy and paste and if your playing fullscreen it becomes a bigger problem so we decided to add a new option that allows for any song to have up to 2 optional user definable links that can be launched easily while ingame, this also helps free up the comments tag for something more useful than urls Knapman, not trying to be annoying here but, are you guys aware that the last missing chart has been fulfilled by asskickulater in the last page (page 8)? Just wondering if you guys are still trying to fix something, or if guys just didn't see it. (Or even if the chart wasn't good enough, or missing something)
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Post by Oddbrother on Jan 23, 2012 19:27:31 GMT
Just wondering if you guys are still trying to fix something, or if guys just didn't see it. (Or even if the chart wasn't good enough, or missing something) It most certainly isn't complete, that's for sure. The REAL guitar chart is just a scribble; a head start.
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Post by DalekSam on Jan 23, 2012 19:29:34 GMT
Regarding charting tools, it's important to note ANY DAW (with midi export support, anyway) can be used as well to chart - Harmonix suggests REAPER and their authoring tools given to any one willing to make RBN charts (though the plugins for REAPER themselves are free and only require registration). I prefer REAPER given how used to it I am compared to the likes of EOF and Feedback, but if I had a choice between those tools I would just use EOF as I find it fairly easy and intuitive to use, but people just prefer different things.
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Post by raynebc on Jan 23, 2012 19:34:17 GMT
For the purposes of a shared project though, it's better if people tried to collectively stick with one tool, especially when the conversion from one tool's format to another can introduce timing discrepancies. Going back and forth between EOF and a MIDI editor again and again would eventually cause the chart's sync to drift because MIDI files don't store items in millisecond timing.
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Post by asskickulater on Jan 23, 2012 20:32:26 GMT
all the guitar real chart needs is a solo, otherwise I'm 90% sure its done correctly
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