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Post by withamik on Mar 7, 2019 23:38:44 GMT
So I've been trying to get into Real Drums with my live streaming stuff and I've been having troubles with getting the hi-hat and yellow crash cymbal working in Real Drums. I really only have one yellow cymbal on my e-kit (I have the Yamaha DTXpress II), but it is only triggering the hi-hat in the game. Even after switching the MIDI note outputs from the kit to send to different MIDI notes to be registered in the game, I still get no dice. It only triggers the open hi-hat in Phase Shift on every note that triggers the yellow cymbal note in-game. So I'm wondering, am I supposed to have another "yellow" cymbal on my e-kit to be able to play Real Drums? Where the hi-hat and yellow crash cymbals are supposed to be separate pads on the e-kit? I figured the "yellow" crash was to be a MIDI note separate from the open hi-hat note, but even after switching through all of the MIDI notes, nothing could be programmed to trigger the yellow cymbal. Only the open hi-hat was triggering. Any advice on this would be really appreciated! This has been really bugging me as there are real drum songs I want to play and everything else on the kit in Real Drums works just as expected!  |
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Post by djlastnight on Mar 11, 2019 13:14:56 GMT
I would advice you to download PsMidiProfiler app from my signature and to create new midi profile with it.
The first thing that you should know is that you should choose the real drums midi profile type:
1. "Regular" real drums midi profile type. Your drum brain must sends 4 different note numbers for each yellow type (c,o,p,s -> closed, open, pedal, sizzle). The game uses this 4 notes directly.
or
2. CC#4 midi profile. Your drums must have a hi-hat pedal, which sends CC#4 (Control Change #4) midi messages to report its current position. The yellow note number does not change, so depending on how hard you press the pedal, the game detects 4 different states, which it converts again to c,o,p,s notes.
When using CC#4 profile, the game has a visual indicator for the pedal position.
If I remember well, when you push the pedal in range 80-120 the yellow bar goes green
when you push to 120+ the bar goes red. The "p" note is send when you press the pedal to its max position (127).
Hope this helps,
dj
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Post by withamik on Mar 11, 2019 15:00:10 GMT
I would advice you to download PsMidiProfiler app from my signature and to create new midi profile with it. The first thing that you should know is that you should choose the real drums midi profile type: 1. "Regular" real drums midi profile type. Your drum brain must sends 4 different note numbers for each yellow type (c,o,p,s -> closed, open, pedal, sizzle). The game uses this 4 notes directly. or 2. CC#4 midi profile. Your drums must have a hi-hat pedal, which sends CC#4 (Control Change #4) midi messages to report its current position. The yellow note number does not change, so depending on how hard you press the pedal, the game detects 4 different states, which it converts again to c,o,p,s notes. When using CC#4 profile, the game has a visual indicator for the pedal position. If I remember well, when you push the pedal in range 80-120 the yellow bar goes green when you push to 120+ the bar goes red. The "p" note is send when you press the pedal to its max position (127). Hope this helps, dj Okay, seriously thank you so much for such a great and detailed response on this! I will try this out as soon as I get the chance to! I'll get back to you on how things go. Dang if I get real drums up and running, I'm gonna be in Heaven! Thanks again! |
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Post by weaksnurtle on Jun 21, 2019 15:56:34 GMT
Did we figure out how to add this second crash? i just got another cymbal for my kit hoping it would just work and i cant figure it out
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Post by djlastnight on Jul 10, 2019 4:48:30 GMT
Did we figure out how to add this second crash? i just got another cymbal for my kit hoping it would just work and i cant figure it out The easiest way to do that is to get a working profile without using any additional pads. Make sure the profile works. Open any midi software, which detects the midi note numbers (PsMidiProfiler is one of them) and then hit your additional pad. Add this note to the working profile. Here are the possible button names
Red,
Yellow,
Yellow_C,
Yellow_O,
Yellow_P,
Yellow_S,
Yellow_Tom,
Blue,
Blue_Tom,
Green,
Green_Tom,
Orange,
Bass,
Rim,
Up,
Down,
Left,
Right,
Back,
Start
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Post by jonidehaes on Aug 25, 2019 17:34:07 GMT
Hey, can you do the same with GREEN_O, GREEN_C, GREEN_P and GREEN_S ? I'm a lefty and mapped the drums that way..don't know if the game recognizes it if it's saying green instead of yellow.. i'm trying to map but not that succesfully...works perfect on Drum ADV as the hi hat is the hihat without the 4 options..Played real drums songs and noticed the difference and difficulties Did we figure out how to add this second crash? i just got another cymbal for my kit hoping it would just work and i cant figure it out The easiest way to do that is to get a working profile without using any additional pads. Make sure the profile works. Open any midi software, which detects the midi note numbers (PsMidiProfiler is one of them) and then hit your additional pad. Add this note to the working profile. Here are the possible button names
Red,
Yellow,
Yellow_C,
Yellow_O,
Yellow_P,
Yellow_S,
Yellow_Tom,
Blue,
Blue_Tom,
Green,
Green_Tom,
Orange,
Bass,
Rim,
Up,
Down,
Left,
Right,
Back,
Start
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Post by cuckoo on Apr 9, 2020 18:31:05 GMT
I tried using psmidiprofiler but my drums cant seem to detect that i am closing the hi hat and hitting it any differently to how it would if i wasnt using the pedal. I dont know what to do now
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Post by Rockem on Apr 10, 2020 16:26:34 GMT
what cable you using? I found it's better to use the Midi in and out with the midi to usb y splitter works great for me had problems with the other cable I call it the printer cable.  |
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Post by cyanic on Aug 27, 2020 18:16:05 GMT
Hey, can you do the same with GREEN_O, GREEN_C, GREEN_P and GREEN_S ? I'm a lefty and mapped the drums that way..don't know if the game recognizes it if it's saying green instead of yellow.. i'm trying to map but not that succesfully...works perfect on Drum ADV as the hi hat is the hihat without the 4 options..Played real drums songs and noticed the difference and difficulties The easiest way to do that is to get a working profile without using any additional pads. Make sure the profile works. Open any midi software, which detects the midi note numbers (PsMidiProfiler is one of them) and then hit your additional pad. Add this note to the working profile. Here are the possible button names
Red,
Yellow,
Yellow_C,
Yellow_O,
Yellow_P,
Yellow_S,
Yellow_Tom,
Blue,
Blue_Tom,
Green,
Green_Tom,
Orange,
Bass,
Rim,
Up,
Down,
Left,
Right,
Back,
Start
I have Yellow mapped to my yellow crash, but in game it is not working. I don't understand? Everything else works fine. |
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