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Post by JarheadHME on Jan 25, 2015 3:04:40 GMT
I'm under the assumption that the stated option doesn't actually use the beginning BPM because when I use it, and I reset the offset it 0, it has a really fast spot in the very beginning, then it actually uses the bpm that was originally at the beginning. I'm not sure if this is a bug or an intended funcionality, but could this be changed to actually use the beginning BPM?
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Post by raynebc on Jan 25, 2015 5:13:08 GMT
The function works as expected. If you reset the offset to zero, it basically uses the "Beat>Push offset back" function as many times as full beats (at the same tempo as the first beat) will fit. Any remaining space is filled in with a smaller beat of the appropriate size, so after all this, the very first beat's tempo is faster than the others, but all others have the tempo of what was originally the first beat. All you have to do at this point is use "Beat>Push offset up" function once to get rid of that smaller beat at the beginning and that should achieve what you want.
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Post by JarheadHME on Jan 25, 2015 5:16:38 GMT
Except this breaks what I'm trying to do. I want to convert this song for Rock Band 3, and this function puts a BPM marker over the limitation of Rock Band. I realized soon after that for this specific song it doesn't matter as it has a constant BPM, so I can just shift it all over a few beats in REAPER, but for other songs that don't have a constant BPM, this would break it.
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Post by Sygenysis on Jan 26, 2015 1:20:28 GMT
I'd recommend once you push the offset back, to remove the second anchor (the one right after the too fast beat), then drag a close beat to where the music starts to try to get the bpm of the first beats as consistent as possible.
That'll at least fix the one beat being too fast. It might not look too pretty, but that's what I've been doing for every song I've gotten converted for RB3.
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Post by raynebc on Jan 26, 2015 9:59:22 GMT
Nothing is broken. You can simply use "Beat>Fix tempo for RBN" and EOF will automatically alter the chart with the halve/double tempo functions to get all tempo changes within the accepted range for Rock Band.
If you prefer, you can make the edits manually, such as by allowing reset offset to zero to insert the beats, and then alter it from there using the Beat>Delete and Beat>Add functions to get it to your liking.
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Post by JarheadHME on Jan 27, 2015 23:52:16 GMT
Rayne, I don't think you quite see what I'm getting at. ^This is what I see prior to using the Leading Silence. These are the settings I'm using in leading silence. This is the outcome after I use leading silence and reset the offset to 0. If I try to use the "Fix Tempo for RBN" it just says that that one beat needs manual fixing. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. Hopefully that clears up my predicament.
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Post by raynebc on Jan 28, 2015 0:59:10 GMT
OggCat (the third party tool used for the stream copy option) may have been unable to do it correctly. Give the "Re-encode" option a try. Otherwise I'll need a copy of the audio file to test with. The fix for the last picture would be to select the second beat marker and use Beat>Delete to get rid of the small beat, although you'd probably want to anchor one of the other beats that occur before the notes begin.
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Post by Sygenysis on Jan 28, 2015 14:23:30 GMT
Would definitely recommend what I said to do, before. Just anchor the beat where the notes start, and drag the second beat at the top near the number, and re-anchor accordingly until the beats are pretty much the same BPM.
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Post by raynebc on Jan 28, 2015 19:44:35 GMT
Anchoring the beat at which the notes start and then deleting and re-adding beats between that anchor and the first beat in the chart would be the easiest way to add however many beats you want that have the exact same tempo, making for an even count-in.
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