Post by saih_tam on Jan 24, 2022 16:09:19 GMT
Hi everybody.
I'm sorry for my bad English.
I play on Phase Shift with a Roland TD-25KV. The hi-hat (HH) is a VH-11.
For long time, I did not understand why my HH in "Drums Real" mode worked only open and sizzle. I ran some test with MIDI-OX :
- 1 hit on HH with pedal fully open;
- progressive pedal closing;
- 1 hit on HH with pedal fully closed;
- 3 hits on the HH, slowly opening the pedal.
Here is a screenshot to view the results : Screenshot
Here is a machine translation of Roland’s team's response this morning:
" In the case of V-Drums, the CC=91~127 crankset is called the "PRESS" area, which is the tone you get when you pass the "CLOSE" area.
Only VH-12/13/14D can detect CC=91~127.
Only the larger V-Drums (TD-27/TD-50X) are compatible with the VH-12/13/14D.
On the other hand, TD-25 and other V-Drums can only support FD/VH-10/11, which means that the maximum CC value is 90 (Detectable up to the "CLOSE" area). The mechanical structure is different from that of the VH-12/13/14D, making it difficult to detect the "PRESS" zone. "
" In the case of V-Drums, the CC=91~127 crankset is called the "PRESS" area, which is the tone you get when you pass the "CLOSE" area.
Only VH-12/13/14D can detect CC=91~127.
Only the larger V-Drums (TD-27/TD-50X) are compatible with the VH-12/13/14D.
On the other hand, TD-25 and other V-Drums can only support FD/VH-10/11, which means that the maximum CC value is 90 (Detectable up to the "CLOSE" area). The mechanical structure is different from that of the VH-12/13/14D, making it difficult to detect the "PRESS" zone. "
As I understand it, Phase Shift interprets HH MIDI parameters like this :
'CC#4 Velocity' [0-79] + pad hit = HH open
'CC#4 Velocity' [80-119] + pad hit = HH sizzle
'CC#4 Velocity' [120-126] + pad hit = HH closed
'CC#4 Velocity' 127 = HH pedal (closed), plays a closed hi-hat, even if you do not hit the pad.
'CC#4 Velocity' [0-79] + pad hit = HH open
'CC#4 Velocity' [80-119] + pad hit = HH sizzle
'CC#4 Velocity' [120-126] + pad hit = HH closed
'CC#4 Velocity' 127 = HH pedal (closed), plays a closed hi-hat, even if you do not hit the pad.
Mine HH's 'CC#4 Velocity' never go over 90, that's why I can't "play" the closed HH in Phase Shift.
Is there a way to customize these value ranges in Phase Shift ?
Is there a way to customize these value ranges in Phase Shift ?
If not, the only solution for my problem would be to treat on the PC the CC transmitted by the module (0~90) to apply a rule of 3 and send them back to Phase Shift (0~127).
The calculation would be : CC_module(0~90) / 90 x 127 = CC_Phase-Shift(0~127))
Which software could perform this type of calculation (by adding less latency as possible) and remap all the MIDI parameters to Phase Shift ?
MIDI-OX ?
Reaper ?
The calculation would be : CC_module(0~90) / 90 x 127 = CC_Phase-Shift(0~127))
Which software could perform this type of calculation (by adding less latency as possible) and remap all the MIDI parameters to Phase Shift ?
MIDI-OX ?
Reaper ?
Cakewalk ?